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B&N Expands into POD, Adds Print & Author Services to Nook Press

nook pressBarnes & Noble might have announced plans to spin off Nook Media into its own publicly traded company early next year, and after looking at B&N’s ongoing investment in its digital sub I think the plan is going ahead, full steam.

The largest bookstore chain in the US has just announced that they are now going up against CreateSpace, Lightning Source, Blurb, and other competitors in the POD market. And it looks like B&N may have crawled into bed with Author Solutions to do it.

B&N put out a press release today which announced the launch of the Nook Press print service. B&N describes it as:

Designed to be simple and customizable, the NOOK Press print service provides customers with a complete do-it-yourself experience for creating a hardcover or paperback book. The new service offers black and white or color printing, high-quality paper choices, multiple trim sizes and cover treatments.

With print costs starting at $4 per copy for a 5″x8″ paperback, Nook Press POD can handle both color and B&W; hardback and paperback; and it can support the common book sizes from 5″ x 8″ to 8.5″ x 10″.

There’s no mention in the FAQ on the website or in the press release on how one would get the books into a bookstore, so at this point we can only assume that there is no distribution option, alas. (I have queried B&N on this point.)

That’s going to drastically limit the value of the Nook Press POD services, given that Lightning Source and Createspace both offer distribution to bookstores.

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In related news, B&N is also launching a new author services section today to help enable authors to get their ebook and print book on the market. Authors can now choose from a variety of packages and a la carte services to receive professional assistance making their book, including editing ($399 and up), cover design ($499), and package deals starting at $999, B&N has all of the bases covered.

It’s not clear who is actually providing the services on behalf of B&N, but one thing I can tell you is that they are rather expensive. I have also noticed that the package deals bear a worrisome resemblance to the packages offered by Author Solutions under its various guises.

For example, B&N’s $999 package and $1,999 package look an awful lot like the $799/$1,899 packages offered by AuthorHouse. The way that the feature lists are worded suggest that Author Solutions is actually providing the services on behalf of Nook Press. (Curiously enough, AuthorHouse is actually providing more services at a lower cost.)

I am still waiting for B&N to get back to me on that point, so you should take that observation with a grain of salt.

But even if I am wrong in making the connection, I would still suggest that authors avoid this part of Nook Press because the prices are simply too high.

The package deals cost more than similar packages at AuthorHouse and offer fewer amenities. That alone is a good reason to avoid them.

But I don’t know I can make the same claim about the POD section. What do you think of the POD prices at Nook Press?


Here’s a thought I had right after publishing this post.

At first I was puzzled that B&N would invest in a sub that was being spun off next quarter,  but now that I have looked over the services I think i understand what is going on here.

In adding more services, B&N is trying to make Nook Media more attractive to a potential buyer. Rather than simply be a (failed) ebook platform, Nook Media can now be pitched as a digital publishing services company.

It’s my guess that both the POD and author services have been outsourced. The actual investment for B&N is far less than what it would cost to develop those services from scratch.

The services might not be very attractive to authors, but that’s not why the services were launched. This is a Wall Street play, not a move to invest in a market. B&N’s goal is to make Nook Media  more attractive to potential investors, and it will probably work.

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David Gaughran November 11, 2014 um 1:09 pm

I ran some numbers on the POD prices and it worked out to $9 a copy plus taxes – which is almost double the cost of Createspace. So that’s a rip off too.

Nate Hoffelder November 11, 2014 um 1:16 pm

I wonder who that was outsourced to?

BTW, about 3 minutes after you left this comment, I added an addendum to my post. I think I nailed why B&N added these services.

David Gaughran November 11, 2014 um 1:27 pm

Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Attach crappy services, then flog Nook Media before the complaints start rolling in.

Ebook Bargains UK November 12, 2014 um 9:34 am

Can you clarify those numbers, David.

We’ve just checked a CS-published title with 242 page, 6×9, cream paper, matte finish.

Publisher price: $ 3.75, compared to Nook’s $5 for the same specs. A difference of $1.25, which is about a third more, not the almost double you

Minimum price allowed to actually sell that book on Amazon: $ 9.38.

The same title can be published hard-cover printed case for $10.50 and just $11 for hard cover with dust jacket, with neither an option from Amazon.

David Gaughran November 12, 2014 um 9:46 am

The disparity increases with the size of the book. I ran the numbers of some of my own print editions and compared the costs. Not quite double, but getting there with bigger books. I’m sure something over 100k would hit double, but I don’t have anything that long.

(Createspace v Nook Press)

#1 5.5 X 8.5, 207 pages

$3.32 v $5.00

#2 6 X 9, 348 pages

$5.02 v $7.00

#3 5.5 X 8.5, 384 pages, cream paper

$5.43 v $8.00

But this is all academic really. I’m not sure what the general demand will be for a POD service with zero distro.

fjtorres November 12, 2014 um 10:34 am

They won’t list their own service’s POD titles on B&…
…but *will* list CreateSpace and LightningSource books.

Yup. That’s going to fly.

Paul Salvette November 11, 2014 um 1:47 pm

The hardcover option (which CreateSpace doesn’t offer) is interesting for authors who don’t want to muck around with Lightning Source. Probably pretty expensive though. Not sure why Nook got into this though: there’s a lot of competition and CreateSpace does POD pretty well.

Nate Hoffelder November 11, 2014 um 2:46 pm

I think B&N is working their way twards selling Nook Media, and they added these services to make it more attractive to investors.

Paul Draker November 12, 2014 um 11:08 am

Hi, Paul,

The thing with Ingram LightningSource is, your books *will* get distributed through Ingram and any bookstore can order them and stock them just like a Big-Five title. I have my LightningSource-printed, Ingram-distributed books selling on the shelves of Barnes & Noble stores, indy book stores, local stores, etc. And when those stores sell their last one, they automatically re-order more. (Returns is a big problem, granted, at 25% or so… but a B&N store manager assured me that was actually a "good" return rate — she told me that for James Patterson, returns run around 50%).

But this new B&N service is not any kind of competition at all for LightningSource, let alone CreateSpace. I see nothing here other than a cynical attempt to extract money from uninformed newbie authors, and to put some lipstick on the pig before taking it to market.

If B&N won’t distribute or shelve their own books from this new print service, or even list them in the online store — something they’ll do for CreateSpace titles — then I just don’t see how a 2003-style B&N-branded vanity press offering brings anything to the table for writers.

By the way, your eBook Design and Development Guide is pure gold. I used it as a reference when building my formatting pipeline. Thanks for writing it 🙂

flyingtoastr November 11, 2014 um 4:14 pm

"given that Lightning Source and Createspace both offer distribution to bookstores."

This is twisting the truth a lot. While, yes, both services will offer to ship books to stores, neither service offers vendor returnable merchandise agreements, which means almost no bookstore will actually stock them.

Nate Hoffelder November 11, 2014 um 4:23 pm

Amazon will stock it. And others can order it.

fjtorres November 11, 2014 um 7:15 pm

Ingram and Baker&Taylor will list them and handle returns as long as the pricing allows typical discounts and the book has a publisher-specific ISBN.

flyingtoastr November 11, 2014 um 10:43 pm

Lightning Source and CreateSpace POD’s are both coded nonreturnables for both Ingram and B&T. Trust me, kiddo, you have no idea what you’re talking about.

Paul Draker November 12, 2014 um 11:18 am

You’re flat wrong on LightningSource.

Michael W. Perry November 12, 2014 um 8:38 am

Not so. LightningSource has offered publishers a returnable option since at least 1999, when I signed up with them. The difficulty is that a publisher has only two options for that returned book:

1. Shred it.
2. Ship it to him.

Both are far poorer options than that for traditional books, where the returned copy goes back on the warehouse shelves. I suspect few publishers sign up for it. I know I never have.

Paul Draker November 12, 2014 um 11:13 am

Not true for LightningSource.

You can opt to make your Ingram/LightningSource books returnable, just like any Big-Five book. If you do that, and specify the industry-standard regular discount (45%-55%), bookstores will have no problem at all stocking and shelving your LSI-printed indie books. (In my experience, most will refuse to shelve CreateSpace titles on "principle.")

fjtorres November 12, 2014 um 11:32 am

Which is where getting your own, non-CS ISBN comes into play, as per DWS’s suggestion. That way the book lists out like a small press title.

The Rodent November 11, 2014 um 4:37 pm

Prices seem similar to Lulu on a couple that I checked with the B&N "quick quote" page.

Nate Hoffelder November 11, 2014 um 5:21 pm

Coincidentally, Lulu got into bed with Author Solutions in spring 2013:

I wonder if that is who is doing the POD?

The Rodent November 12, 2014 um 11:47 pm

True, Lulu did get into bed with AS. Yuck! I neither need nor want distribution channels, and only use Lulu for printing. (Love the zero set-up fees.) Just ignore the relentless marketing hype. I won’t deal with Amazon/Createspace; and last time I checked, Lightning Source was priced out of our league. It’d be nice to see an independent POD service that isn’t any of the above, yet is as cheap as any of them for straight one-off copies and no distro. I’m all ears and whiskers if you hear of any.

Steve Vernon November 12, 2014 um 6:21 am

Reading this I think of all of those folks who are asking us writers to stay away from Amazon because they are the devil itself – but if a writer wants quality they have got damn few choices to pick from. Gimcrack tacked-on author services like this sure don’t sound attractive…

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Michael W. Perry November 12, 2014 um 8:47 am

B&N entering the POD market makes no sense. Amazon’s CreateSpace owns the low-cost slice of the market. Ingram’s Lightning Source has the widest distribution by far, both nationally and internationally.

What can B&N’s POD bring to the table? Almost nothing beyond perhaps a bit better access to its stores. They’re be better off improving their ties with Lightning Source or gritting their teeth and distributing for CreateSpace.

As a publisher, I will say that creating two print version to differing cover specs for CreateSpace and Lightning Source is already a nuisance, particularly in addition to all the digital editions the market requires. I’m not going to take on a third.

Nate Hoffelder November 12, 2014 um 9:07 am

It really doesn’t make any sense, no. That’s why I think this move has a different purpose.

David Gaughran November 12, 2014 um 9:33 am

I don’t think it’s about the POD – I see it as an add-on of the Author Services.

You buy a package for $999 or $1999 which doesn’t include proper editing, only an editorial assessment.

That assessment then recommends line editing (almost $3k for an 80,000 word book) or dev editing (well over $6k for the same length). That’s where the money is, and that, presumably is what will make this attractive to investors (and shady for writers).

The POD is purely there (IMO) to help sell the packages, which are designed to upsell the editing services etc.

fjtorres November 12, 2014 um 9:46 am

It also explains where the "selfpub is expensive" zombie meme comes from.

Convince the unwary that "doing it right" costs an upfront arm and a leg so they’ll cough up both arms and legs for peanuts.

Ebook Bargains UK November 12, 2014 um 9:50 am

But Amazon doesn’t even do, let alone own, the POD hardcover market.

That alone makes this new venture from Nook very appealing to indie authors. And the hardcover prices are very competitive compared to the likes of Bookbaby and Lulu.

The feedback we’ve had so far is that the paperback option with no distribution is pretty irrelevant, but that the hardcover options are of great interest.

For authors who have their manuscript ready to go then as an addition to the indie toolkit, rather than replacement for CS, this looks like a good deal.

Nirmala November 12, 2014 um 11:07 am

Creating a book on their service does not even get your book into their online store, let alone their physical stores. From the Nook Press FAQ:

“The NOOK Press print platform program is for you to print books
for your personal use, and does not include selling those books through
Barnes & Noble stores or You may sell the books you print on
your own, however.”

In contrast, publishing a paper book on Createspace gets your book into So Barnes and Noble will carry POD books from a competitor, but not from their own POD service. Are they serious?

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On a whim, I priced a 326-page book, premium color cover, B&W interior, cream paper, and was told only white paper available at this time.

Plus the price per copy I got was $43!!!

Thanks, but no thanks.

S.J. Dunn

J.M. November 12, 2014 um 11:46 am

Really? I got 14.50 per book

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John F. Harnish November 13, 2014 um 10:11 pm

A bit of history and some insider observations from my decades of experience with digital publishing as an author and vice president of Author Services for Infinity Publishing from 1999 until my premature retirement in 2011.

In the mid-1990s, at the start of the digital publishing branch of the book publish industry, there was a POD publisher with the imprint “The Great Unpublished” to attract writers with unpublished manuscripts. I never talked with a writer who perceived any “greatness” in the “unpublished” tag—although there is a “greatness” in the number of unpublished writers. With a change of owners they became “Book Surge” perhaps with hopes of becoming a surging source of POD books.

Book Surge and Infinity were unique because they both produced books in-house enabling consumer friendly prices competitive with trade paperbacks published by the mainstream houses and of similar quality.

POD publishing services, such as Author Solutions (previously known as 1st Book and Author House), iUniverse, Xlibris, etc., outsourced book production to Lighting Source or other commercial digital printers. The POD publishing services marked up the outsource services which resulted in high retail prices. Selling services accounted for 60 to 90% of their annual income—even if no books sold the publishing service made a handsome profit selling services.

iUniverse and B&N formed some kind of a relationship in the early 2000s. At the same time one of the big traditional publishers was loosely associated with Xlibris.

Book Surge was purchased by Amazon in the late 2000s and the name was changed to CreateSpace. Feedback from author I referred to CreateSpace has all been very positive.

Lighting Press started out doing digital printing for the “trade” but became Lighting Source when they got more involved in distribution and providing publishing services for authors. Lighting Source shares a parking lot with Ingram so arranging book distribution with the industry’s largest book wholesaler was a no-brainer. Ingram sold books to B&N—but B&N refused to have anything to do with handling POD books because of a secretly conspired agreement with the Big Six publishers and major newspaper reviewers to keep POD books out of the chain stores.

Efforts to have Infinity titles carried in B&N stores were fruitless. Their Small Press director explained we had no return policy. Within a few months we offered retailers one of the most generous and liberal return policies in the industry at no cost to our authors—made possible because of our in-house book production. Another B&N objection was POD books were plagued with typos. We offered to provide a monthly listing of our 100 top sellers for B&N to consider—books with a positive sales history continue to sell in greater numbers. No way, B&N said they would not handle any book that wasn’t reviewed by the major media reviewers. Of course the reviewers refused to review any POD book that didn’t have national distribution via the chains. No reviews equals no distribution; and no distribution means no reviews, “Catch-22” applied.

Thanks to establishing a workable return policy for retailers, many of Infinity’s more popular books sold in respectable numbers through Amazon, Baker & Taylor, independent bookstores, and—yes, B&N’s online bookstore listed all of our titles on their website and ordered weekly.

New owners took control of Infinity Publishing in 2010. They outsourced all book production which delays getting books to retailers and authors, started pushing pricy bundled services, and most likely dropped the return policy.

Thusly the odds are NOOK POD books will be sold via but not through their remaining chain stores. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
Most likely NOOK POD has adapted the dubious Author Solutions publishing model or they entered into some kind of an imprint agreement for Author Solutions to provide the profitable backend services—so to speak. Bundled services are usually overpriced and of questionable value to the author. Packaged publishing services rarely produce enough income for the author to recoup the cost of the services; however as previously mentioned, the POD publishing service realized a profit without a single book being sold.

When you consider all the reported problems authors have had with Author Solutions, and their variety of imprints, it is unlikely NOOK’s venture into POD would enhance its attractiveness to potential buyers. NOOK would be trying to compete with CreateSpace which has the advantage and the ability to add additional innovative benefits for authors.

Indeed we publish in interesting times.

Enjoy often… John

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